The Silent Absence of Ahmed Al-Hassan

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As mentioned on the page "Impostor Imam" Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan went into a silent six-years-long absence starting in 2008. And after that many of the shuyukh who had been present with him in Najaf conspired against him and usurped his position through creating a fake office and a fake facebook page in his name so that nowadays many still believe that Ahmed Al-Hassan is with the office, while he (as) is in reality with The Black Banners of the East.

We have read a lot about the similarity between the call of Imam Mahdi (as) from the calls of the Prophets and Messengers (as). And this is, what has been emphasized by the Qa'im of the Family of Muhammad Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) in his sermons and books. By many of these ahadith also the "Ansari" authors in their books confirmed, that Ahmed Al-Hassan (pbuh) has an absence. Let us read the following quotes in a new way in order that we may see what has been hidden from us:

The Qaim has a sunnah from Yusef – Black Banners episode 5
  • everything, what happened to Yusuf will happen to the first Mahdi, the Vicegerent of Imam Al-Mahdi and the promised Yamani.“ – Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan, Enlightenments from the calls of the Messengers, p.65
  • "Sudayr said, that Imam Al-Sadiq (pbuh) said: Verily, the Qaim has a sunnah from Yusef. So I said: as if you are mentioning his news or his absence." – Alnu'mani, Al-Ghayba p.29, Al-Kafi pt1/388
  • "Zurarah said, I heard Abu J'afar (as) saying: "Verily the Qa'im (pbuh) will have an absence, and his family will deny him". So I said: And why is that? So he (as) said: "He will be afraid" and he pointed with his hand to his stomach." – Mohamed ibn Ibrahim Alnu'mani, Al-Ghayba p.176
  • From Al-Baqer (pbuh) he said: "There will be for the companion of the matter an occultation in a few of these regions and then he pointed his finger over at Thi Tuwa (Najaf) until before his emergence, the Mawla (Master) that was with him will arrive, and he will then meet with a few companions."Gaibat AlNumani p.182, Hadith.30
; Ilzam alNasib fi Ithbat alHujja alGha'ib, vol.1 p.298
; Sharh Ehqaq alHaq vol.29 p.605
  • "Abu Baseer said: I heard Abu J'afar (as) saying: "The Companion of this matter has a sunnah from Moses, a sunnah from Jesus, a sunnah from Joseph, and a sunnah from the Messenger of Allah sawas… As for the one from Moses, it is that he will be afraid and vigilant…" - Ghaybah by No'mani page 167, Bihar Al-Anwar V.51 P.218, V.52 P.347
  • "Sa'eed ibn Jubayr said: I heard the master of worshippers Ali son of Al-Hussein (as) saying: "The Qa'im from us has sunnahs from the Prophets: ...As for the sunnah from Moses, it is fear and absence." – Bihar Al-Anwar V.52 P.217, Kamalul Din wa Tamamul N'ima P.322 and P.577, Kashf Al-Ghumma V.3 P.329
  • From Al-Baqer (as): (If our Qaem AhlulBayt appears will says:) "I fled from you when I feared you, but my Lord has granted me hukman (rule/ power), meaning I feared from you for myself, and I come back when my Lord will have permitted me and will have reformed/ repaired my matter."Bihar Al-Anwar, part 52, page 385
  • From Al-Mufadhal that Abi Abdullah (as) said: "Indeed there is a ghayba for the Compagnion of this matter, he says about it: I fled from you when I feared you, but my Lord has granted me hukman, and made me from the prophets."Bihar Al-Anwar part 52 p.293

We understand from the above quotes, that the Qa'im (as) will be fearful and vigilant, and he will be in an absence. And the Qa'im of the Family of Muhammad (sawas) is Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) the Promised Yamani (as).

After understanding this fact, we have to ask three questions:

  1. How long is this absence?
  2. What will happen to the people during this absence?
  3. What is the condition of Ahmed Al-Hassan (pbuh) during his absence?

How long is this absence?

Al-Asbagh ibn Nabata said: I went to the commander of the believers (pbuh) so I found him drawing lines in the earth, so I said to him: O Commander of the believers, why do I see you contemplating and drawing lines in the earth? Do you desire it? So he said: “By Allah, I have never desired it nor have I ever desired the world, but I was thinking about a man who will be born from the eleventh from my sons, he is the Mahdi who will fill it with justice and equity as it was filled with oppression and injustice. There will be a confusion and an absence for him, people will go astray in it, and some others will be guided in it.” So I said? So how long will the confusion and absence be? So he (pbuh) said: “Six days, or six months, or six years.” - Ghaybat AlToosi p 165 hadith 127

Who is the 11th from Imam Ali's (as) sons? The 11th son is Imam Mahdi (pbuh). So who will be the decendant of Imam Mahdi (pbuh)? Ahmed Al-Hassan (as).

We the Black Banner Supporters used to think, that his (as) ghayba started in 2008 and lasted until January 2015 – but that would have made 7 years!

The BBS-Forum „The Story of the Meeting of the Twelve with the two Imams (as)“, which is an answer from the 12 to multiple questions. One of the questions was:
„Was Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) already with you a while ago after his absence ended? Or he appeared to you for the first time on the day of King Abdullah's death? Meaning if the absence started in 2008, did it end in the end of 2014?“

Excerpt from answer: „The Sayyed the Father Ahmed Al-Hassan (pbuh) has gathered us from several countries, among which are Arab, Islamic, Western, and Asian countries, until one year and a half ago we gathered in one place… until that blessed promised day came and we heard about the destruction of the criminal (Abdullah the king of Hijaz)… So he (pbuh) said: “Did the news of the destruction of the tyrant Abdullah, may Allah curse him, reach you?” So they said: “Yes”. So he (pbuh) said: “This is the day of Allah. This is the promise of Allah The Almighty for His righteous sincere servants“… Then he said: “Now I want you to point at the best of you and to choose ten to meet Imam Al-Mahdi Muhammad son of Al-Hassan Al-Askari (pbuh)”… So we went forth twelve men and with us was the Sayyed the Father (pbuh) …So we arrived to the place which Imam Al-Mahdi (Muhammad son of Al-Hassan Al-Askari) (pbuh) was at. So we met him (pbuh) and after the greetings and after a long conversation which took more than two and a half hours, he (pbuh) directed us and informed us of unseen matters which will take place, and events worldwide, with the most accurate details."

A possible understanding is, that Ahmed Al-Hassan went into absence in the last half of 2007 and then remained absent until he started to communicate with his closest Ansar in the second half of 2013. This makes 6 years of absence. Then the Imam gathered those 12 in one place and stayed with them for 1 1/2 years until they death of King Abdullah - upon which Imam Mahdi (as) reappeared and the glad tidings about these news were delivered to the Ansar though the 12.

What will happen to the believers during this absence?

And this absence is the one, which the Alulbayt (as) have emphasized on, and they (as) said that the companions of the Qa'im (as) and his Shia and the ones, who believe in him, will be in a confusion and in a silent disastrous Fitna after he goes into this absence.

The Messenger of Allah sawas said: “O Ali, you are from me and I am from you, and you are my brother and vizier, so if I die, there will appear to you the hatred in the chests of the people. And there will be after me a silent disastrous Fitna, every "walijah" and "bitana" will fall in it. And that is when your shia lose the fifth from the seventh of your sons. The inhabitants of the heavens and the earth will grieve for his loss! How many believing men and women will be grievous and anxious and confused when he is lost! – Bihar Al-Anwar v26 p350, Ghayat Al Maram v1 p212

Who is "the fifth from the sons of the seventh" of the sons of Imam Ali (pbuh)? First let's count and see who is the 7th son, then we can see who is the 5th from the 7th.

1rst son is Al-Hassan
2nd is Hussein
3rd is Ali Zainul Abideen
4th is Muhammad Al-Baqir
5th is Al-Sadiq
6th is Musa Al-Kazim
7th is Ali Al-Ridha
(pbut)

So the 7th son is Imam Ali Al-Ridha (pbuh).

Let us see, who is the 5th from Imam Ali Al-Ridha (pbuh):

1rst is Muhammad Al-Jawwad
2nd is Ali Al-Hadi
3rd is Al-Hassan Al-Askari
4th is Muhammad Al-Mahdi
5th is Ahmad Al-Hassan!
(pbut)

The one meant here is the Qa’im of the Family of Muhammad Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as), and he is the fifth from the seventh of the sons of The Commander of The Believers (as), and the disastrous silent fitna takes place when he is lost meaning in his absence which lasts for six years maximum as in the apparent of the narration, and this silent disastrous fitna means the test and the sifting and the classifying, in which every inner (walijah) and hypocrite (bitana) fall, meaning the special ones of the Ansar and their leaders and those, who met the Qa’im of the Family of Muhammad (as) Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) and took from him a lot of knowledge and secrets, which no one knows except them, and they are the ones who speak of him (as) and believe in his call (as). So if the absence, would only be, that the Imam (as) is hiding, but still communicates with his Ansar and clarifies everything for them, why then would there be confusion and a “silent disastrous fitna”?

Note that the meaning of "walijah" in the Arabic dictionaries is “the intimate [friend or close one] to the human being and his special ones, or the ones who the human being depend on from other than his family, or he is from the companions of the secret”. And the meaning of "bitana" in the Arabic dictionaries is the "dependents and special ones and the people whom he trusts, the ones whom surrounds him and accompany him, and they are close to him and he does not hide a secret from them {O you who have believed, do not take as Bitana (intimates) those other than yourselves}. [Holy Qur’an 3:118]".

So walijah and bitana mean the special ones of the Ansar and their leaders and those who met the Qa'im of the Family of Muhammad (as) Imam Ahmed Alhassan (as) and took from him a lot of knowledge and secrets which no one knows except them know and they are the ones who speak of him (as) and believe in his call (as)! Aren't those the likes of Nathim Al-Uqaily and Alaa Al-Salem and Hassan Al-Hamammi and their likes from the "sheikhs" of the Ansar?

Now we need to ask ourselves: If the fitna would have not been silent, and there would have been sufficient communication would the Shia be perplexed? And look at how much communication the office Shuyukh claimed to have had between 2006-2012 with the Imam: Multiple answers were given, multiple sermons delivered and multiple books published. If the Imam was guiding the Ansar closely like that, this situation would not match the description of a silent disastrous fitnah from the narrations at all!

Furthermore it is narrated from Ali Ibn Ja'far that: Imam Al-Kadhim (as) said, "When the fifth (offspring) from the seventh of the Imams disappears, then, I adjure you by Allah to watch for your religion so that no one would take it away from you. Without doubt, there shall be an occultation for the holder of this matter until such time that (most) people who believe in his Imamat would leave their belief. Verily this (occultation) is but a test by Allah, the Glorious, for his creation."

And how immense must the issue be, which takes place during the absence of the the fifth from the seventh, that some who believed in him completely loose their religion!" A Shia looses his religion, if he goes out from the wilayah (guardianship) of AhlulBayt (as), because the religion is a man – the Imam – who loses him loses the religion. But who could take away the Guardian from them after they know him (as)? Since it is not easy to Only an impostor, who takes people away from the real Imam (as) to someone imitating the position of the true Imam.

What is the condition of Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan during this absence?

"…Then The Messenger of Allah (sawas) turned to us, raising his voice, saying: Be cautious when the fifth from the seventh of my sons is lost. So I said: O Messenger of Allah, so what would this absence be? So he said: Silence, until Allah gives him permission to emerge…" – Al-Bihar 36/333, Ithbat Al-Hudat 1/589, The Encyclopedia of the Hadiths of Imam Mahdi 63, 164

Imam Ahmed (as) left hints about himself remaining silent until he returned with Imam Mahdi (As) like Aaron (as) did during the fitna until Moses(as) return. Further details found in "Ansar will fight Ahmed Al-Hassan) in the paragraphs:

Furthermore the Ansari "sheikhs" confirm, that Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (pbuh) entered into absence after the last attacks on the Ansar in Iraq etc, which took place in 2008, as well as Tawfiq Masrour's wife did in the past.

Ahmed Al-Hassan returns with his father

Didn't Imam Ahmed (as) say in the "Sermon of the Story of Meeting Imam Mahdi" that he is going to return with his father Muhammad ibn Al-Hassan (as)? Not with facebook and office of Najaf.

Why didn't the Facebook Imam return with his father like the real Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) clearly promised in his sermon? And many other things to contemplate over for those who have a mind.

The wife of Tawfiq Masrour admits, that the Imam (as) went into absence

Bitissam Ahmad (one of the admin people of the official arabic website and Tawfiq Masrours's wife; her fb-profile) says in post A: "He is hiding from his enemies not absent...." and she elaborates and says that he is still in contact with his Ansar and he still answers questions etc. during this "hiding". Even though in post B she quotes the narrations where it says, that he will be "absent", not "hiding but still in contact with the Ansar".

Post A

In this picture Ibtissam Ahmed (one of the admins of the "official Arabic website almahdyoon" and the wife of Tawfik Al-Masrour) admits that after the last attacks of 2008 Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) got absent from the eyes of the people, but denies that it is a silent absence:

Ibtissam Ahmed on mahdyoon forum

Ibtissam Ahmed says:
"Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) is not absent, he is hiding now from his enemies, after he was apparent among them and they wanted to kill him several times. And hiding is different than absence, for he (as) is present and he meets his Ansar in the Land of Allah. But he does not appear infront of his enemies and does not appear in front of people who do not believe in him, and the reason is that now they are requesting his blood and they declare that! Rather they tried to kill him several times, and they ended up killing thousands of people in Iraq, and in those attempts American planes even participated, and this has been aired by some of the satellite channels like the Jazeera channel and the Arabeya channel which are very popular [until she says] And as we have clarified they tried to kill Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) several times, and some satellite channels aired those incidents, from which are:
The Zarka Incident…

The second incident was in Muharram 1428…

The third incident was in Muharram 1429 (which would be around January 2008)…
A person whom the oppressors are requesting his blood to the greatest extents how do you want him to appear publicly and how do you want him to do something which could make his place be known?!!” Yes he was apparent for years just like the Messenger of Allah (sawas) was, but now his hiding from the eyes of the oppressors but he is not absent or hiding from his Ansar rather he meets them and directs them and books come out from him and recently the 13th disciple book was published… [until the end]"

His wife admits that after the third incident of attacks which was around Muharram 2008, Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) went absent from the people. However she tries to make it seem as if he went “hiding” not “absent”. But she does not have any proof for this “hiding but still meets his Ansar” claim. However we have a proof that his absence would be silent. " …“Then The Messenger of Allah (sawas) turned to us, raising his voice, saying: Be cautious when the fifth from the seventh of my sons is lost. So I said: O Messenger of Allah, so what would this absence be? So he said: Silence, until Allah gives him permission to emerge…“ Al-Bihar 36/333, Ithbat Al-Hudat 1/589, The Encyclopedia of the Hadiths of Imam Mahdi `63, 164

Furthermore Ibtissam was saying, that the oppressors are seeking the Imam’s (as) blood to the greatest extents and that they have been trying to kill him and you are saying how could the Imam (as) do something by which his place could be known? So how come the fake Facebook Imam says openly and publicly, that he is communicating directly with those representatives? Wouldn’t this be something by which his place may be known if they track those individuals down? How could the fake Facebook Imam appoint Hassan Al-Hamami the head of the Office, when in the video (see minute 8:54) he is seen confessing to the intelligence, that he is the head and that it is a misguiding misguided dawa etc, wouldn’t the intelligence look for Hassan Al-Hamami and track him down to get the Imam (as)?

And if she says „But he does not appear in front of his enemies and does not appear in front of people who do not believe in him”, so how come he made an official authorization to Haidar Al-Ziyadi, doesn’t this require that he’d personally be there and provide personal information about himself, which could get him (as) arrested?

The unmasking of Al-Ziyadi's lie

How can a man who is chased by the intelligence agencies around the world and a fugitive of Iraq sign off an official authorization-paper?

Watch "Black Banners respond to Haydar Al-Ziyadi"
Mashup of the fraud of Al-Ziyadi



Ibtissam Ahmed on mahdyoon forum

She admits that the Imam (as) has an absence. About the narration: "Al-Asbagh ibn Nabata said: I went to the commander of the believers (pbuh) so I found him drawing lines in the earth, so I said to him: O Commander of the believers, why do I see you contemplating and drawing lines in the earth? Do you desire it? So he said: By Allah, I have never desired it nor have i ever desired the world, but I was thinking about a man who will be born from the eleventh from my sons, he is the Mahdi who will fill it with justice and equity as it was filled with oppression and injustice. There will be a confusion and an absence for him, people will go astray in it, and some others will be guided in it. So I said: So how long will the confusion and absence be? So he (pbuh) said: Six days, or six months, or six years." - Ghaybat Al-Toosi p 165 hadith

She says: "The narration is not talking about the duration of the dawa… it is talking about the duration of the absence or the confusion."

The common understanding of this narration is, that his (as) absence is silent, which stands against her claim that he is hiding not absent and still meets his Ansar

Office's UK representative admits quiet ghayba

In the The Mahdi Times Issue #19 June 2014 the UK represantive of the illegitimate Office Anis K. had stated back in 2014 that the narrations about the Mahdi's ghaybat of 6 days, 6 months, or 6 years indeed talk about a "quiet" absence.
Even though quiet means "little or no noise" and he did not say "silent" (not speaking or making any sound), it is remarkable, how he admitted that our Imam (as) has a quiet absence, and he himself also claims that it will happen during his 6 day, 6 months, or 6 year absence. But now Anis K. denies this.

Page 12 of the The Mahdi Times Issue #19
"quiet" on the Oxford Dictionary


Attempt of Office Supporter to deny the silent absence refuted

Six points article on eramahdi blog

Some of the Office supporters, tried to disprove the silent absence of Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan by the following six points.

First claim: The word “silence” is not mentioned in the hadith’s primary source

The Office Supporters have attempted to refute the silent absence of Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) by quoting the following hadith:

"Imam Ali (pbuh) said: And what about this occultation? Prophet (pbuh) said: Asbit اصبت until Allah permits his emergence and he will emerge from Yemen, from a village called Kara'a." – Kefayat Al-Athar by Al-Khazaz p.150 or 147

Their claim:

This hadeeth's primary source is in Kefayat AlAthar by Alkhazaz and there is no older Shia book in which this hadeeth is mentioned in.

In the footnotes of the investigator he mentioned two things about "asbit": In one he says, that a print mentions "alSabr" (patience) instead of "asbit". And the other he says "yaseer", which means "it will happen". There is no mention in this primary source about silence.

First refutation: The Absence of the Qaim (as)
The word "asbit/ assabt" (= you are correct) does not make sense in this place and needs to be replaced by another word.

Sheikh Al-Korani for example, who is one of the shuyukh most specialized in researching the matter of the Mahdi (as), mentioned the narration with „asSamt“ (silence) in parenthesis as an explanation:

"… Then The Messenger of Allah (sawas) turned to us, raising his voice, saying: Be cautious when the fifth from the seventh of my sons is lost. So I said: O Messenger of Allah, so what would this absence be? So he said: Silence, until Allah gives him permission to emerge…" – The Encyclopedia of the Hadiths of Imam Mahdi (Mujam of Ahadith Al-Imam Al-Mahdi), written by the Etablissement of Daar Almaaref under the oversight of Sheikh Al-Korani, page 35

In Arabic dictionaries the words „silence“ is „not talking or not speaking at all“, meaning the Imam cuts all available methods of communication with his Ansar during that six years of absence.

Allama Majlisi for example mentioned the narration with the word "yasbur" (patient) in Bihar Al-Anwar v.36 p.335.

Sheikh Al-Korani mentions the narration in the book "Mujam Almawthoo’i li’ahadeeth Imam Al Mahdi" with the word "silence" without any brackets.

In total the narration is mentioned in many books in at least 4 different ways (to make sense of the most probably incorrectly recorded version from Al-Khazzaz). But is not easy to find out which word is the most correct – „asSamt“ = silence or „yasbur“ = patient or yaseer“ = it will happen – and Allah knows best the correct one. Therefore we need to rely on clarification through further ahadith.

Narrations clearly state that the ghayba (absence) will be silent with no communication at all with the Ansar.

Second claim: Just like Imam Mahdi (as) Imam Ahmed (as) must be always in contact with his Ansar

In their document, the Office supporters claim that Imam AlMahdi (as) has always been in in contact with his shia in both the minor and major occultation and they use the following two narrations to prove it, and claim the Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) cannot enter into absence and has to always be in contact with his Ansar, or else he would not be fulfilling his duty: "Keeping in mind of the reason Al-Yamani is sent, which is to prepare humanity for the arrival of Al-Mahdi, it is imperative and obligatory for him to always be in contact with his supporters. Otherwise, it will be a total useless if a messenger cannot send the messages."

Here is the narrations they use:

"Jabir narrates from Abi Jaa’far (pbuh): Jabir says: I asked him (pbuh) about this verse: {And for every nation is a messenger. So when their messenger comes, it will be judged between them in justice, and they will not be wronged} [Surah 10:47]. He (pbuh) said: Its inner /esoteric interpretation is that for every century of this nation there shall be a messenger from the family of Muhammad who will come out to them in their century. and they are the preferred ones and they are the messengers. And as for the saying of Allah, {So when their messenger comes it will be judged between them in justice} its meaning is that the messengers judge with justice and they do not oppress/do injustice as Allah said." – Tafsir Al-‘Ayashi, volume 2, page 123. Hadith 23, and Al-Majlisi narrated it in Al-Bihar

Second refutation

We all know that in in Imam Al-Mahdi’s minor occultation he had four ambassadors, through whom he communicated with his Shia, meaning not even directly, but through the 4 of them, and that in his major occultation and until he met his son Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) he was in complete absence.

And we have already proven in the sections above and through several narrations that Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) will enter into absence/occultation and that this is an evident matter that the Imams (pbut) have stressed on.

So in response to the above narration that they use, So between Imam Al-Mahdi’s major occultation and the start of Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan’s call we had no messenger. And we also know from the AhlulBayt (as) that Imam Al-Mahdi’s absence from us and his occultation was a punishment for us, so it was meant to be that we remain without a messenger in and for a certain time.

Third claim: How will Imam Ahmed (as) announce the Sufyani's rise, if he is no longer in contact with the Ansars?

The narrations say, that the Yamani and the Sufyani will emerge at he same time and that the Yamani will call his Ansar to fight him, so how can those circumstances be fulfilled, when there could be a time-gap between them due to silence?

Third refutation:

Since January 23rd, 2015 Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) has come out of Ghaiba/occultation after it lasted six years as the narrations stated. We never said that the Imam (as) is still in occultation, rather he is out of it now with his father Imam Al-Mahdi (as) and when the time comes, he (as) will inform us about the rise of the Sufyani.

Also a hadith is mentioned that supports the believers claim and goes against the office:

"Narrated from Hathlam son of Basheer I said to Ali son of Al-Hussein (as) describe to me the emergence of the Mahdi and tell me about its details and signs, he said: Before his emergence is the emergence of a man his name is Awf Al-Silmy in the land of Al-Jizeera (Iraq), his home will be in Tikreet and his killing will be at the mosque of Damascus and then its the emergence of Shuaib son of Saleh from Samarqand and then the Sufyani the cursed one will emerge from Wadi Al-Yabees and he is the son of Utba son of Abi Sufyan, if the Sufyani appeared the Mahdi would disappear and then he shall emerge after that." Bihar v.52 p.213

This narration states that the Mahdi would disappear, however you misinterpreted this narration by saying: "Above hadith clearly shows that when the Sufyani emerged, the Mahdi is already there, and afterwards disappears. Of course the Mahdi needed to be there, as he is the one who can identify and issue the call to fight Sufyani."

A few mistakes here:

First of all, the narration does not say if the Sufyani emerges, rather it is says “If the Sufyani appeared…”

Second, the Mahdi mentioned here is not Imam Almahdi (as) but Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as), because we know that Imam Al-Mahdi (as) has already come out of his major occultation and will not go into another one again. Rather the one who will disappear and will be absent is Imam Ahmed Al-Hassan (as) who was already there, but disappeared for six years, and has come out of his absence now and will inshaAllah identify and clarify to us the issue of the Sufyani, when the time comes.

Fourth claim: People will continue taking rulings from Al-Qaim until his rise

Here they claim, that people will continue taking rulings from Al-Qaim until his rise and are ordered by ahadith to stick to loving those they already loved before his (as) absence.

"Ali son of Muhammad Raf'a from Ali son of Abi Hamza from Abi Baser he said: I said to Abi Abdullah pbuh: May I be your ransom when is the Faraj? He said: The Riser is an Imam son of Imam they take halal and haram from him before he rises. I said: May Allah reform your condition if the people missed their Imam from who do they take? He said: If that happened love, whom you used to love and wait for the Faraj (relief), how fast will it come to you." V.3 P.417 Mujam Ahadeeth Al-Imam Al-Mahdy

And this quote from the Imam from the "Statement of Ifhaam" in 2005 was added to show, that the ones, who deserve our love are the "Ansari Shuyukh" like Nathim al-Uqaily:

"I ask Allah that Sheikh Nathim Al-Uqaily, the dear scholar and the advising guardian of the family of Muhammad has been successful in this response to reveal the truth while relying on the book of Allah and the traditions of the generous Prophet Muhammad (sawas) and his pure Ahlulbayt (as)." Ahmad Al-Hassan Rabiul Awal 1426 Hijrah (2005)

Forth refutation:

Again, in response to this narration, the Black Banners never claimed that the Imam (as) has risen, and thus we take the Halal and Haram from him (as) now after he (as) come out of his absence and from his teachings before 2008.

Furthermore the part “love whom you used to love” cannot be about Nathim Al-Uqaily, since we have proven above, that the first ones to fall during the fitna and who would fight the Imam (as) and turn against him (as) are the seemingly close and special ones to him (as). For further proof read the page Ansar will fight Ahmed Al-Hassan.

Fifth claim: Know the owner of the facebook account through his knowledge

They say, Imamamte verified by text and proof, by knowledge and answering questions.

Fifth Refutation:

Actually, if anything this facebook account and the latest post prove specifically that it cannot be from an Imam (as) and contradicts his knowledge and his principles and core message.

The cooperation with the tyrants, the filthy tongue, the inappropriate words, the bad temper, the lack of tranquility and mercy, and the blocking and deleting of comments, the refraining from sending peace and blessings upon Muhammed and the Family of Muhammed in all of the posts prove that it is not the real Imam (as).

So yes, we could actually your argument and the facebook posts to strongly prove that it cannot be the Imam (as).

As for the rest of what you call knowledge on facebook, the Samiris took a lot from the knowledge of the Imam (as) and his teachings and were very close to him (as) before his absence.

Six claim: Al Qaim Will Be In Contact With His Supporter Through The Internet

They quote:
Aba Abdullah (pbuh) said: When our Qaem rises, Allah will extend for our Shia their hearing and sight until they do not see between them and between the Qaem. He wants to speak them and so they hear and see him while he is in his place. Muntakhab Al-Athar p.483 Bihar Al Anwar v.52 pg.336

Six refutation:

You have wrongly applied this narration.

Yes, as Aba Abdullah (as) said, when the Qaim (as) rises, he will be in contact through the medium described in the narration.

But, did Ahmed (as) rise during his absence from 2008 until this day? No. And the Black Banners did not claim so. So you have refuted yourselves by putting above hadith which indicates rising, not appearance!

How could the Imam be absent for six years without leaving someone who represents him?

The Office supporters ask, how could the Imam be absent for six years without leaving someone who represents him, did the Imam leave his Ansar to be misguided? And the answer to that from the 12 closest companions was published answer on the Black Banners Forum.

"In the Name of Allah, The Abundantly Merciful, The Intensely Merciful, All praises belong to Allah the Lord of the Worlds, O Allah send Your prayers upon Muhammad and the Family of Muhammad the Imams and the Mahdis.
He did not leave anyone to be misguided. {And we have not oppressed them but they were oppressing themselves}. The Imam (as) did not leave anyone. Rather the Ansar are the ones who left him, from their bad acts."